{"id":2933,"date":"2019-10-16T21:07:20","date_gmt":"2019-10-16T19:07:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/edspanjaard.bigbaboon.nl\/?p=2933"},"modified":"2020-06-02T23:55:21","modified_gmt":"2020-06-02T21:55:21","slug":"im-still-always-the-first-cyclist-to-sprint-away-at-the-traffic-lights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.edspanjaard.nl\/en\/interviews-en\/im-still-always-the-first-cyclist-to-sprint-away-at-the-traffic-lights\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018I\u2019m still always the first cyclist to sprint away at the traffic lights\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.edspanjaard.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/data50492812-eed92f-e1571237233881-1024x652.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2835\" width=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.edspanjaard.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/data50492812-eed92f-e1571237233881-1024x652.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.edspanjaard.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/data50492812-eed92f-e1571237233881-300x191.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.edspanjaard.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/data50492812-eed92f-e1571237233881-768x489.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.edspanjaard.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/data50492812-eed92f-e1571237233881-1536x978.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.edspanjaard.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/data50492812-eed92f-e1571237233881.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ed Spanjaard was the principal conductor of the Orkest van het Oosten and the Nieuw Ensemble. Both of these ensembles will cease to exist. Conductor Ed Spanjaard (70), however, refuses to be despondent. His response: agile optimism. \u2018Next week I\u2019ll be picking up my flamenco dance classes again.\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ask conductor Ed Spanjaard what he is looking forward to, and he will present a long, energetic list. A concert trip to Venice with the Atlas Ensemble and its musicians from China, Japan, Central Asia, the Middle East and Europe. \u2018The eagerness this ensemble has for making music that transcends language barriers often moves me deeply\u2019, he says. \u2018There are no borders in music.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He is also looking forward to a belated d\u00e9but with the Munich Symphony Orchestra, and to performances as a pianist. And to holding a speech for composer John Adams when he receives the Erasmus Prize at the end of November. Then there is also a production of Smetana\u2019s opera Die verkaufte Braut in a \u2018hip Dutch translation\u2019 with the Dutch Touring Opera to look forward to next spring.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018There is so much\u2019, he says, and then hops up the stairs of his Amsterdam home in a single bound, singing, to look in his study for the scores with which he can underpin his enthusiasm. \u2018Look, do you see this motif? Edward Elgar captures the portly Falstaff perfectly in a striking musical character sketch: witty and sharply portrayed. It\u2019s amazing how dull this opening theme sounds in most performances. I\u2019m going for a different approach in Munich next week.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A year ago, his response would not have been this elated. The farewell to the two ensembles of whom he was the permanent conductor, the Orkest van het Oosten (due to a merger with the Gelders Orkest) and the Nieuw Ensemble (disbanded in December), filled him with \u2018incomprehension, sadness and anger\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018When I graduated from secondary school my parents gave me a super 8 camera, which also had a reverse mode. Is that my destiny, I thought, going backwards? But once my emotions subsided, I knew: no, it isn\u2019t. When I recently took the lift at the Amsterdam conservatory, I felt like Charlie in Road Dahl\u2019s Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. That was a moment of pure lucidity. I knew then: I\u2019m not going backwards; I have my imagination. That will take me anywhere I want to go.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Isn\u2019t that a poor consolation for a conductor with your resume?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018My diary is full. Not crammed, to be honest. I\u2019m looking for a new agent to represent me abroad. But I don\u2019t feel disadvantaged or gloomy.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>I hear top-classes orchestras referring to many conductors as \u2018hot\u2019 but they but do not match your quality. Why has it been so long since you conducted the Concertgebouw Orchestra, the National Opera or the Rotterdam Philharmonic?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018That\u2019s a question to which I don\u2019t know the answer. I admit I\u2019d love to get back to all of them. The Concertgebouw feels like home to me, the Rotterdam Philharmonic is great, and I\u2019ve conducted the DNO on many occasions in the past \u2013 I would love to do it again. But it\u2019s simply not up to me. Still, if you were to ask me if I think I\u2019m good enough for top-class ensembles like these, here and elsewhere, then I\u2019ll say \u201cyes\u201d wholeheartedly. That is the extent of my modesty.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You don\u2019t have an explanation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018It partly has to do with the fact that orchestras attach great importance to youth, to external factors. Like you just said; to whether or not someone is \u201chot\u201d. That can be frustrating. So, I\u2019m thinking of getting myself a blond, curly wig and then maybe some piercings. Ha, that should cause quite a stir!\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And behind the charming armour of black humour you will find \u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018\u2026that being older has almost nothing but advantages for a conductor. I may be 70, but I\u2019m still pretty fast. When I\u2019m doing Pilates exercises, you won\u2019t hear my joints cracking any louder than other people\u2019s. I\u2019m still always the first cyclist to sprint away at the traffic lights. And then I look at all those younger people with their headphones and think: no talent for conducting! A conductor must react quickly, be constantly alert. And maintain a clear overview and stay calm at the same time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018When you\u2019re young, it can be difficult to relax in front of an orchestra. Will they ask any difficult questions? Thoughts like that can make you really tense. At my age it\u2019s easier to preserve your natural sense of playfulness. And that\u2019s important, because playing music is also playing. You need agility, flexibility. This applies not only to how you are as a musician. Some people become a caricature of themselves over the years. I don\u2019t want that.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>What would a caricature of you look like?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018I don\u2019t have a clear picture in mind. Let\u2019s just say that all artists are egocentric to a certain extent. But you also have real narcissists, who brandish their personality around, like some of those people you see at supermarkets who leave a trail of hair conditioner and smoothies that wafts all over the other shoppers. It\u2019s a bizarre metaphor, but I would never want to be someone like that.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Behaviour like this may be necessary in your profession. Look, here I am, book me!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018I\u2019m afraid you\u2019re right. But that\u2019s not me. Other aspects of life have plenty to offer me. Friendship, books, the three beautiful paintings I just bought and which make me profoundly happy. And I\u2019m also looking forward to taking up my flamenco dance classes again next week.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>People used to associate the conducting profession with autocrats. How do I reconcile your amiable attitude towards life and ability to put things into perspective with your task: to impose your vision of how to play a certain piece of music on a hundred highly educated and experienced musicians?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018As a conductor, I am resolute. Not that I rule with a hard hand, but my musical ideas are crystal clear to me and the desire to hear what I imagined in my head when studying my scores gives me wings. On top of that, I am not afraid to speak my mind, but conducting is more than that. Conductors who lose themselves in small talk during rehearsals often lack power in their gestures. A good conductor communicates with his arms, hands, body and eyes. This will get you a lot further than words alone, provided you\u2019re good in the first place.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>What about Frans Br\u00fcggen, or Harnoncourt? Many baroque conductors are better with words than gestures. With great results.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018Yes, but when they speak they share their vast knowledge of historical performance practice, full of witty and idiosyncratic imagery. I\u2019ve attended hundreds of rehearsals of great conductors and written down everything they said.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With Mozart\u2019s 39th Symphony in hand: \u2018Here, look, in this score alone: quotes from Colin Davis, Jean Fournet, Jaap van Zweden, Herbert Blomstedt, Daniele Gatti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018A musicology student assists me every once in a while by taking stock of and indexing my hundreds of scores. It\u2019s often nice to look at, for inspiration. But this only applies to a certain extent. When I conduct Beethoven\u2019s Fourth Piano Concerto next week it will be from a clean, new Urtext edition score. Everything will be in my head.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Have you ever felt any hesitation in conducting?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018No, I was lucky that my family members made a lot of music and the conductor of the school orchestra understood my fascination for conducting. He gave me a chance to try it out and except for an uncomfortable cramp in my shoulders everything felt natural and good right away. That was his reaction too, by the way.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>About your childhood. Your mother survived Auschwitz. How did that history affect you and your family life as a child?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018That is a huge topic. My mother was fortunate to meet my father shortly after the war. He had just started out as a psychiatrist and soon realized that you have to talk about a trauma like this in order to process it. So, my mother went into treatment. She spoke of her experiences often at home, and at schools later on. It was a terrible past, but she was open about it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018By the way, it wasn\u2019t just Auschwitz that was horrible, coming back to the Netherlands was too. People said: \u201cOh, how terrible for you, but we didn\u2019t have enough potatoes here either\u201d.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Do you still dare to talk about your own fears and sadness as a child?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018Perhaps that is difficult. Don\u2019t be too conspicuous. Yes. But when I\u2019m standing in front of an orchestra, I\u2019m there, I\u2019m allowed to be there to do the music justice.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>But that\u2019s as a conductor. In the service of music.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018That\u2019s true. I suppose that what you are saying plays a big part in who I am, and how I am. But it is difficult. I\u2019m good at thinking about myself, but there\u2019s one aspect I can\u2019t reach.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Will you become a sort of Bernard Haitink or Herbert Blomstedt \u2013 conducting well into your 90s?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018As long as I remain limber in body and mind, I will go on. When I become too stiff, I will work less. But fortunately, that\u2019s not an issue.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ed Spanjaard was the principal conductor of the Orkest van het Oosten and the Nieuw Ensemble. 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